Muslim issue will turn and bite us if we fail to act
It's time to show the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland tough love, writes Ruth Dudley Edwards
Sunday November 11 2007
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Let's look at the Clonskeagh mosque. And don't listen to me. Listen to Muslims.
A couple of weeks ago, Dr Ali Al Saleh, imam of the Shia mosque in Milltown, expressed his worry that the Sunni Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland (ICCI) -- which incorporates the Clonskeagh mosque -- had invited Sheikh Salman Al Awda to address a conference called Our Children, Hopes and Realities. The Saudi Arabian Al Awda, a fundamentalist, had recently described Shias as "non-Muslims". Not surprisingly, Dr Al Saleh felt such sentiments endangered "the harmonious relationships in Ireland of Sunni and Shia Muslims".
The ICCI was unrepentant, but what do you expect from an organisation that was also proud to announce that the conference would feature the Egyptian Sheikh Wajdi Ghunaim, who has been banned from Canada as a Hamas-fundraiser and member of the Muslim Brotherhood, and who has a musical party piece with the refrain "No to the Jews, Descendants of Apes" .
But then, as Dr Shaheed Satardien, another excellent imam, frequently points out, the ICCI is sympathetic to the Sunni Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, which teaches its acolytes to speak softly while infiltrating the institutions of the countries in which they live.
The ICCI produces rhetoric about peace and love, but houses the European Council for Fatwa and Research, a fundamentalist body that opposes any modernisation of Sharia law. It is presided over and visited by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a nasty piece of work who defends the murder of homosexuals and the suicide bombing of Israelis, and who has been seen on television defending his role in stirring up the controversy over the Danish cartoons that led to many deaths.
I hope that Ministers Brian and Conor Lenihan are paying attention to Dr Satardien's call for the Irish Government to stymie the radicals by establishing strict controls over Islamic education. The Government might also encourage urgent research of the kind that has shown that many public libraries and mosque bookshops in Britain carry hate-filled Islamist propaganda largely financed by Saudi Arabia.
It is necessary to be tough. Some time ago, the University College Dublin Islamic Society website was a hotbed of anti-Semitic propaganda, but after some public criticism, it got its act together. It's time we showed tough love to the ICCI, which surely is letting down former president Mary Robinson and Hamdan Al Maktoum of Dubai, politician and racehorse owner, who opened it in 1996.
Let's start by asking where it gets its money from. And why it honours a man who wants to conquer Europe for Islam.
Or will we continue -- until the first bomb goes off -- to pretend all is well in our Muslim garden? [link]
Tuesday, 27 November 2007
"It's time to show the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland tough love"
A terrific opinion piece by Ruth Dudley Edwards in the Indo a fortnight ago. Dunno how I missed it:
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Thanks for posting this crucial article, I drove past the Clonskeagh Mosque for the first time last week, and was astonished by the size of the place. It's crucial for the gov to moniter what goes on in this place, though I can't see them doing it until it's too late.
This Sheikh Satardien seems like a decent sort.
Dear HB
My guess is that you have never met a Muslim, and a Muslim woman in particular. Or that you have chosen to speak to a particular kind of a Muslim, some who toes the line with your way of thinking.
I dont mean to be offensive here. But I must say, your deductions about Islam and Muslims may be wrong. If you are so afraid of the Islamic Cultural Centre of Ireland [ICCI], and you are willing to express your bravery on this blog, then please feel free to visit the ICCI with me or without me. It would be good to have a chat with you face to face.
By the way, if you check out the Women's section of the ICCI, you will find that it is being run by two Irish women.
I personally have my own reservations about the ICCI, but this is not about my own reservations, but yours. And I am not a spokesperson of the ICCI, so I will not work hard to defend the ICCI, but be assured, I will speak for Islam and Muslims just so they are not misunderstood. So that I am not misunderstood. I am sick of being judged without being spoken to.
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Regards
AH
:)
Hi Abdul,
Thanks very much for your comments and for your invite. I won't take you up on it just now -- but, perhaps, one day soon in the future.
Just for the record -- I have met Muslims -- many of them, in fact. One of my closest friends is Persian, as a matter of fact, and although she no longer is Muslim (she is an apostate), I have spent a good deal of time visiting with her and her family and friends in Tehran. I have also spent a good deal of time in Egypt -- as well as some time in Indonesia. Oh, and Turkey as well. So, I have met very many Muslims, indeed.
Please don't take me or my opinions the wrong way. I have nothing against most Muslims -- nor do I believe most Muslims are terrorists or whatever. I simply do not want my country to become fully or even partially Islamic or Pakistani or Persian or whatever. Nor do I want Ireland to become a little Gdansk or Moscow or Lagos. All these immigrants to Ireland have perfectly good countries of their own. They can come and visit Ireland all they want -- some may even come as guest workers for short periods of time -- but I see no reason to transform Ireland. No reason at all.
As for my opinions on Muslims and Islam -- I'm not sure which ones you are referring to -- perhaps my comments about cousin-marriage, etc.? Let me assure you that I apply that sort of thinking to all peoples, not just Muslims -- the Irish included. We are all biological creatures and the explanations for our behaviours must, therefore, come from biology.
Thanks again for you comments! I will definitely check out the ICCI's women's page -- haven't done that before.
Cheers,
HG :-)
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