Saturday, 14 June 2008

Lisbon Treaty referendum results - east/west, working/genteel class divides

Here are the same two maps from the previous post with the No vote percentages indicated for each constituency.

Not surprisingly, it's pretty clear that there was (the usual) east/west divide in the country with many regions in the West being strongly opposed to the Treaty while areas in the leafy suburbs of Dublin were the strongest in favour. I think this also indicates a working class/farmer versus genteel class divide.

Also, some people may have been voting with immigration issues in mind -- at least in the sense that many Irish people feel that they're losing job opportunities to immigrants from the EU. Look at the results for areas like south and southwest Dublin (second map) as well as Cork City -- all of these have large immigrant populations and they have some of the highest No vote returns.


See also in the Examiner: Results see-saw to show class, regional and personality issues

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5 comments:

Old Atlantic Lighthouse said...

I think you are right that losing jobs is a reason people are waking up. Men's median wages in the US are the same as in 1973, see graph page 16 of p60-233.pdf at census.gov. But output per hour in the US is almost double from 1973.

Series Id: PRS84006093
Duration: index, 1992 = 100
Measure: Output Per Hour
Sector: Business

PRS84006093,1973,Annual,73.410

PRS84006093,2007,Annual,138.957

You can check this at

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=pr

Pick business, output per hour, index and click on select series and then click on get data. Then reset start date to 1947.

Economics is true everywhere, that is why the big bosses pay big money to the politicians when they leave office. Bill Clinton gets 300,000 USD per speaking engagement.

Jungle Jim said...

Congratulations to Ireland and to Hibernia Girl for all her hard work.

Anonymous said...

Hello Ireland ...

... here is Italy

Thanks to the geat irish folk who said NO to this treaty.

We Europeans out of Ireland we haven't the right to vote.

We haven't any chance to say our opinion about this treaty.

THANKS TO THE IRISH PEOPLE FOR THIS NO !

European Union is slowly becoming the Soviet Union with his central KREMLIN (Bruxelles) government.

Irish people gave us a sign of Hope and Freedom.

GREAT THANKS FOR THIS NO TO THE LISBON TREATY FROM FROM THE ITALIAN FOLK.

Anonymous said...

Actually if you take a look at the top NO votes, the one thing they have in common, bar Mayo and Dublin Mid West, is a very strong Shinner presence in elected terms and in very strong organisations on the ground. In those areas, and others, it was SF on the ground who were really the only ones out on the doors during this campaign and mobilising their suporters on referendum day

The two Donegals, Dublin south west, dublin south central, Dublin north west, Cork North Central, Louth,Kerry North are all areas where the shinners are very strong organisationally.

Mayo and the Donegals and Louth and Kerry North are not areas with particularly high immigramnt populations

The constituencies that voted yes are areas where the shinners are weak on the ground and where teh likes of FG, FF and Labour are very strong, the likes of Dublin South and South East and Dun Laoghaire

Hibernia Girl said...

Anonymous: Mayo and the Donegals and Louth and Kerry North are not areas with particularly high immigramnt populations.

No, indeed. I think still, though, that the general vote pattern is east vs. west which is urban vs. rural (Yes vs. No) -- with also a genteel class vs. working class divide (Dun Laoghaire and the likes vs. Dublin SW and central Cork). These latter areas are where the immigration issues were a factor.

Sinn Féin is, no doubt, strong on the ground in both the "remote" rural areas and working class areas because they most closely represent the wills of the people living in those areas.